amtrak-official

I don't care how well a turnstile stops fare evasion or counts people or any of that Bullshit, All I care about is the aesthetic and by that measure These:

Are so much better than these:

amtrak-official

I agree, I just feel like we should use both kinds, the door for wheel chairs and with a different material than glass as well and normal turnstiles for able bodied people like how most metros currently are

mommy-mortis

I think we should get rid of both and just make Transit "free"

amtrak-official

That is a very unpopular idea with politicians but I love it

lilibat

Yes make it free, but they still need data on how many are using it for budget and scheduling considerations so... we still need a way to count riders.

endreal

At the actual point of transit maybe? Count people as they enter/exit the vehicle rather than at a preceding gate! This seems like it'd provide the highest quality data about route utilization as well because there'd be anonymized data of fairly precise ridership, including both onboarding and offboarding locations to (hopefully) calibrate better reach and scheduling. (I don't actually know if this is the case, but it intuitively makes sense to me. (plus it doesn't penalize people who may need to access a station for non-transit reasons either (such as needing to shelter during an emergency))

amtrak-official

That’s actually how commuter rail and intercity rail work, the issue is that conductors would be inefficient and inefficient on short distance high capacity metros