Jersey City and Hoboken are what I like to call Schrödingers suburbs. Because they are towns that depend of people who want to live outside NYC and commute in daily, but they are far to dense and urban to be real suburbs.
Now this is not a complaint, they are really good dense human scaled cities which are incredibly Walkable, it’s just funny how they exists in a weird grey area of being not New York Proper due to being outside Manhattan and the western parts of Brooklyn and Queens such as Long Island City or Downtown Brooklyn and yet are considerably super urban and therefore aren’t really suburbs of New York
